i used to have very specific shoes i wanted for school to go with my uniform since my choices were very limited due to the requirements we had. penny loafers and bass shoes where you tie these little chubby looking know at the end of the laces (i wonder if i still know how). so when i saw these bass shoes, i know that i need to have them and they would be kicking cool for me and my feet. bring it on over please. size 8.